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Post by Jeremiah Wood on Nov 17, 2015 1:35:09 GMT
Well, no matter how much I did not want to see either of you in the final 2, you are both there. Now, that is not a bitter statement, just the truth, and it is for 2 very different reasons. Rudy, it was never the "character" you were playing that I didn't like. I attempted to speak with you over and over again, in character and out, and you were hard to deal with. Now, I see you played the game but here is my dilemma with you. You were a horrible person, game or not. I understand that you had to make moves and distance yourself from people, make enemies to get further and so on, but you want to do it in a way where those people can look at you after and be like, there, game move, thats it. You did it in a way where you wanted to create unnecessary drama, and start arguments over nothing. Now, I know that even if I kept Aras, you would never have voted Tyson. You would have thrown your votes at Ami, knowing the idol was being played on her, and I go home anyway. Now, I knew you were going to vote me anyway but the way you handled it by speaking to me afterwards was just plain stupid. I am heading to the jury, meaning you need me in some way after. You never considered that? You sent a lot of people out in a way that makes them not want to vote you even if you did play an amazing game. You can't "Russell Hantz" in Survivor and expect to win. I know that you did play the game, but the unnecessary drama, name calling & disrespect cloud me from wanting to see your whole game. You are not my first choice to give a vote to win this game, so you have some work to do. Ami, You know what I am going to say. I saw you try to make moves but you were pulled along. There is a UTR game, and then a game where you floated, which is different. I see Monica's game, but not yours. You are also not my first pick to vote to win. With that being said, I do need to choose one of you, so you need to show me that everything you did in this game was a key piece to your game in some way. I will be looking at everyone elses questions and your answers as well. No BS, no over emphasizing your moves. I know what you did and I want to see truth. Rudy - Why all the bitterness & drama? Not just to me, but to everyone. You made your point they were either getting your vote or leaving, but you decided to rub it in their face before, during and after. It just makes you less desirable at this point in the game, where you need the votes of those you did this to. Ami - Name 1 sole move that was just yours. No one else involved. Where you ran the show. Both - Rank the jurors from biggest jury threat to least & why. Rank your own game against your opponent in the F2. Name 2 people on the jury who deserve your spots in the F2. For a fun question - If everyone (Jury & Finalists) was an ice cream flavor, which would they be and why? You need to prove to me why you should get my vote, as right now I would vote either of you.
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Post by rudy on Nov 17, 2015 2:49:29 GMT
Rudy - Why all the bitterness & drama? Not just to me, but to everyone. You made your point they were either getting your vote or leaving, but you decided to rub it in their face before, during and after. It just makes you less desirable at this point in the game, where you need the votes of those you did this to.
I answered this question pretty specifically in my opening statement, but I'll go into more detail When Tyson left, I threatened Jeremiah with a 5th place finish unless he voted Aras, which I held to. Some of this I posted in the TC thread. Though my last ditch effort failed, I chose to vote off Jeremiah for a very specific reason, which was evident at the Final 4 Vote. Jeremiah will convince you that it was entirely emotional cause he screwed me. And I'm not gonna lie, paying Jeremiah back was without a doubt a major determining factor in eliminating him 5th. But I needed Aras to make it to the Final 4. Aras's boot exemplified one of my main strategies in the game...to be so grating to players on the way out that I'd be perceived as a Jury Goat. Every parchement I made was for this purpose, and I needed Monica and Ami to fall for it. But Aras in the Final 4 gave me a much better chance of survival than Jeremiah, since Aras was perceived as a much bigger threat than Jeremiah, particularly in the area of Endurance, which we all speculated the Final Challenge would be. Ami summed it up best with her TC response:
Ami- Don't beat around the bush, damnit. Who has to go to give your punkass a chance at ftc? Don't call me a punkass, punkass. I'll beat around the bush if I damn well please. My chances at winning aren't AMAZING going to the Finals with any of these hooligans, let's be honest here RODNEY, so the correct answer to your questions is "everyone". For tonight's Tribal, though, there are many things to be taken into consideration. Aras has friends on the jury, and Rudy has enemies on the jury but has played a strong game, so there's merit to either of them going. BUT TO ACTUALLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION...probably Aras. [/spoiler][/div]
[/div] Exactly what I was hoping for when I taunted and voted Jeremiah out in 5th. If Jeremiah was here and Aras gone 5th, I doubt I would be here right now giving an opening speech.
[/quote] It wasn't simply for the sake of being a jerk, the parchements I made had multiple reasons, to explain my rationale for voting said person out, and to make it seem to players in the actual game that I "burned" that vote on the jury. Now suddenly, I'm less of a threat in the game. I have so many targets on me, the mole, the person "In control of the game", Monica and Ami telling people I have mind control over people, etc. Adding "Jury Threat" to that list is an absolute death sentence for me. I needed to lower my threat level within the game to have a chance of surviving a vote. Think about Jeremiah, why would I SHOWCASE my fight with you, I posted it directly in the Final 5 TC chat for EVERYONE to see. I knew when you voted Tyson out, I lost my chance of securing a 2-2 tie at Final 4 vote. I needed to give Ami and Monica a reason NOT to vote me out at the Final 4. If that potentially meant burning your jury vote for me, then so be it. Getting to the Final 2 down one jury vote is better than leaving in 4th place with a jury vote that never came to fruition. The drama was NECESSARY, or I'd be on the jury with you guys right now. I also explained this strategy to PW Heidi and in my confessional. I've made a point of intentionally dissing every jury member on their way out with the exception of Caleb and Tyson. I need to play that up at the next vote as much as I can to survive. My challenge abilities have been shit, I've alienated all but 2 jury votes, I'm a smart person to bring along to the end, or at minimum, past F4. At F3 i'll be putting my all into it (I'm expecting an endurance of some type) but F4 is the round that I really need to get past to have a shot at taking this thing. Now I completely understand why you might not approve of this tactic, and I honestly can't blame you. I gave you a harder time than anyone cause I was worried about the Final 4 vote. But Ami's TC response is proof that it worked, and if I had it to do over again, I would. Rank the jurors from biggest jury threat to least & why.
1. Monica- Biggest threat by a longshot, she could argue the FTC eloquently and has the game to back it up 2. Aras- He made few enemies in the game and played a solid game 3. Caleb- Caleb was targeted early for this very reason, he was playing a stellar social game and tons of alliances. After some of the arguments that occured later on though, his stock on the jury probably would go down 4. Joaquin- Another mole and true bonafide threat, people were worried about Joaquin from the start and he kept his alliance with Monica and Ami pretty well hidden for awhile. If he made the end he would have been a big contender 5. Jeremiah- I know you got some Akha players in your corner early on who are sitting on the jury, and you played subtle but solid game 6. Ashley- She may very well be higher if we had gotten to chance to see her make a big move, Ashley main problem in winning over the jury would be her timezone hindering her social game 7. Nick- Ironically, I feel like Nick and I were similar in the regard that we rubbed people the wrong way, but I bet you if he got to the end he could put together an awesome argument. He was great with words, but the social game may come back to bite him. 8. Tyson- I've been told by many people that Tyson was a "goat" which is unfortunate. Tyson definitely had game and tried to make moves, I think his status as a suspect mole hindered him along way, and a lack of availability 9. Wigglesworth- Wigglesworth wasn't really looked upon highly a lot of players, and the frustration with her deepened when she made the play to join Hmong in the minority in an effort to save Jeremiah. She'd have an uphill battle to win over a jury. Rank your own game against your opponent in the F2.
I did this a bit in Nick's question, I put myself as the 2nd best player in the game and Ami as the 9th. If you compare my game to Ami's, I think it's clear I had much more of impact on the elimination order and put my fate into my own hates rather than others. Ami was not targeted in the game because she was a non-threat. The Final 8 for instance, we had discussed the possibility of voting off Ami, but decided that Joaquin was a much bigger threat and should go first. Fear of Monica using the idol on Ami protected Ami, rather than a specific move of Ami's own doing. Monica wanted to take her to the end as her goat, and after I lost Tyson and Caleb, it became my goal as well. I do think on paper, Ami's jury management was a little better than my own, but I gave very good strategic reasons for my Parchements and I hope the jury will respect my strategic game Name 2 people on the jury who deserve your spots in the F2.
Monica and Aras, they both played awesome and came so very close.
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Post by Jeremiah Wood on Nov 17, 2015 2:55:27 GMT
Thanks Rudy. Don't forget my fun question for you both. It may determine how I vote
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Post by rudy on Nov 17, 2015 3:27:41 GMT
For a fun question - If everyone (Jury & Finalists) was an ice cream flavor, which would they be and why?
Wigglesworth:
A Gummy worm "Mud" ice cream..cause they WIGGLE
Ashley:
WWF ice cream bar, don't that look tasty!
Nick:
Nick is isn't one specific flavor...but a SIX PACK...Just look at those abs
Joaquin:
JOAQA-MMMMMOLE Ice cream, do I need to explain why?
Caleb:
Ghost Ice Cream..SPOOOKY!
Tyson:
Tyson receives the "Tyson" special, Vanilla with a ton of "thpwinkles"
Jeremiah:
With that Hairdo, it even kinda looks like you! I kinda view you as well groomed and MINTY fresh
Aras:
Blooody ice cream, it remind me of Dead Glen (too soon?)
Monica:
Monica gets the CLAM special, and if you been watching Second Chances, you'll know why!
Ami:
Cause Ami is a CLASSROOM math teacher (fuck you all, Ami is hard as hell to come up with a flavor for)
Rudy:
Rocky Road Rudy! I look rough on the outside, but when ya get to know me, I'm REALLY sweet!
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Post by rudy on Nov 17, 2015 3:51:05 GMT
I just realized Caleb...with Bananas hidden inside, unintentionally Queer
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Post by Jeremiah Wood on Nov 17, 2015 4:08:49 GMT
I really laughed at Caleb's :X haha
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Post by Jeremiah Wood on Nov 18, 2015 1:07:15 GMT
Ami....
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Post by Ami on Nov 18, 2015 1:10:19 GMT
Working on it, Jer <3
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Post by Ami on Nov 18, 2015 1:51:40 GMT
Ami - Name 1 sole move that was just yours. No one else involved. Where you ran the show.
I stated this elsewhere, but I'll say it again here. Also, I've said this before, so I'm not just saying it because I'm in the finals. I think there's a misconception that to be "good" at the game of Survivor, you have to execute big, flashy moves on your own. While this can certainly be impressive, I think it's imperative to make sure that you're not just making moves on your own for shits and giggles. To address your question specifically, I don't think anyone can claim a move to be their own with no one else involved, as this game requires collaboration and partnerships to successfully execute anything. But, I get where you're coming from, so I digress.
I don't think there was one sole move that was just mine, and while that may seem like I'm lacking in gameplay, I think it illustrates that I was able to make it through this game without having to create any waves or cause any chaos. Had there been an opportunity for me to make a big move that would have benefited my game, and I could say with confidence that I would still be sitting here had I made that move, then I would be ashamed to admit that there wasn't a "move" that I made. Instead, I sit here with my head held high because I didn't NEED to make a big, flashy move, because I was able to navigate my way to the end with the bonds I had formed early on and without emerging as any sort of threat.
I recognize that this may not garner a lot of respect, and may not be the answer you were looking for, Jeremiah, but I see no reason for me to sit here and bull shit some story when I don't see the need to. My game was mine, I set myself up in the positions that I did, and I made sure that I had a clear path to the finals ahead of me. I think executing that effectively, in turn, meant that I didn't need to make a big move to secure my place in the finals.
Rank the jurors from biggest jury threat to least & why. 1. Monica - I think Monica played one hell of a game, and maintained solid jury management at the same time. I think she would have given anyone a run for her money.
2. Aras - I think Aras had strong connections on the jury, and played a solid UTR game until he needed to step up and take the reigns. His jury connections would have certainly made him a threat at this point.
3. Caleb - I think Caleb played a very strong game, and the reason he doesn't rank higher is because I think he may have pissed some people off on his way to the finals.
4. Joaquin - Like I said in a previous post, I think Joaquin had a hell of a lot of fight in him, and I think that that fight would have impressed the jurors.
5. Jeremiah - I think that, had you made it to the end, you could have pitched a solid case for your game. I saw you as more attached to Rudy/Caleb than Aras was, which I think could have bitten you in the ass, and is why Aras is ranked higher than you.
6. Ashley - Ash would have been a huge jury threat had she made it to this point. She certainly had her game face on and her head in the right place. Had she been able to successfully navigate her exit round, she would have been in a good spot to win.
7. Nick - Nick may be so low on my list simply because I never connected with him, but I got the impression that he wasn't super connected to anyone outside of the Hmong's, so I'm not sure how big of a threat he would have been in the end.
8. Tyson - Again, could be the fault of Tyson's computer, but he seemed to just always be by Rudy's side.
9. Wigs - I don't think Wigs had enough time in the merge to establish herself as a jury threat. She also wasn't the most active pre-merge, so I don't have much to base her being a threat off of.
Rank your own game against your opponent in the F2.
I ranked mine and Rudy's games pretty closely in Nick's thread. I know that Rudy believes his game to be far superior to mine, but I believe we're just two different sides of a coin. Rudy was much more boisterous, and played a much louder game than I did. I certainly think there's merit to that, but I also think there's merit to my quieter game. I think ultimately mine beats Rudy's out by a hair because of my jury management, effort in challenges, and ability to not cause chaos and still make it to the end of the game.
Name 2 people on the jury who deserve your spots in the F2.
I swear this isn't a cop out and I'm not just copying Rudy, but I agree with him that Monica and Aras would deserve these spots. Not only were they the next closest to making it to this point, but I think that they played cool, calm, and collected games and made calculated moves that benefited them and their allies throughout. Monica played a very calculated, intricate game whereas Aras had superior jury management.
For a fun question - If everyone (Jury & Finalists) was an ice cream flavor, which would they be and why?
Wigglesworth - I'm going to assign Wigglesworth Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough with 50% less cookie dough. For me, unless I get a good chunk of cookie dough in my ice cream, I'm left feeling a little empty and bored. I feel like Wigglesworth left me feeling a little bored early on in the game, but when I found that "cookie dough" if you will, I was much more impressed and satisfied with my decision.
Ashley - Ashley gets strawberry. I think, of the three "primary" flavors, strawberry is the most underrated. It's delicious and satisfying, but never gets as much attention as vanilla and chocolate. I don't think Ashley gets the credit she deserves for her early effort in the game, and her time was cut too short.
Nick - Nick gets vanilla from me. He's a classic, nice, stand up guy, just like vanilla, but isn't the most exciting at all times (this is again probably strictly from my relationship with Nick)
Joaquin - Lol @ the avacado ice cream. That sounds disgusting. I've said this a lot throughout my answers, but I really saw Joaquin as a fighter in this game. Never went down easily. He certainly had a "rocky road" (ba dum tsss) so I give Joaquin Rocky Road.
Caleb - Caleb gets chocolate. Chocolate is always the crowd favorite, I feel like, and Caleb was a favorite of many early on. However, unless you spice chocolate ice cream up, it can get a little old, and I think Caleb's game caught up to him and got a little "old" if you will and that's why he went home.
Tyson - I think Tyson is Superman Ice Cream. He certainly tried to stand out and play for himself, but ultimately it didn't really work out so he ended up still tasting like vanilla.
Jeremiah - Jeremiah you seem like a classic dude, but with a little grit and spunk to ya. So for that I assign you classic Chocolate Chip. Not as classic as vanilla, but has the grit and the spunk of the chocolate chips mixed in.
Aras - I think Aras is spunky and really brought a lot of personality to the game. For that reason, I think he's rainbow sherbet. Just like the colorful, tangy, and sweet flavor, Aras brought a lot of interesting personality with him into Phuket.
Monica - Mint Chocolate Chip. Just like MCC, Monica was cool, calm, and collected, always refreshing to talk to, just like the mintiness of the ice cream, and is always a stand out selection of flavor.
Rudy - Neopolitan. Because it reminds me of old people, and I feel like Rudy has many different sides to him, just like neopolitan's three flavors.
Amy - I think my game is underrated by many. Honey Ice Cream at Marble Slab was also severely underrated ( so much so that it was stripped of it's glorioius spot on the menu) and I feel that I'm at risk of being stripped of my glorious chance at victory because of my underrated game.
Hope that works for you, Jeremiah!
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Post by Jeremiah Wood on Nov 18, 2015 2:33:50 GMT
Thanks to the both of you! I really honestly mean this, best of luck to the both of you, you are both in contention for my vote (and both think the other is getting it, so that amuses me ) Good Luck!
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