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Post by ashley on Nov 17, 2015 7:00:17 GMT
Hey final 2 Congrats on making it to the end! I'll start with (If you seek) Ami We didn't talk much and barely connected. I'm not gonna hold it against you bc communication works both ways and I know that with a lot of people, I had a hard time conversing. Also the fact that we would msg eachother while the other was busy or not online idk. The thing that you have going for you is that I think you're nice. I'm a sucker for nice (sweet) people and maybe that will be enough for you to get my vote. I can either vote personally or vote based on the game. Tell me why I should vote for you based on game? I do think Rudy played a better one but if you can convince me as to why that you played a better one then I'm all ears. Also what does if you seek ami mean? Next is Rudolph I was happy to see you make it to the end and to see my fellow Akha (was that even my original tribe?? idkidkidk) tribemates come into the jury one by one. It was booty(ful). I think you played great and srsly lold when I woke up and found myself voted out of the game. I wrote a confessional right before I went to bed about flipping next round with you. I did find our convo strange so I was weary and I said "I hope Rudy wasn't testing me though bc he is a snitch lol He always telling everyone what so and so said. I guess we will find out if the vote changed to me but that would be a waste." So why should I vote for you though when you were the reason I was ousted? Like I said, I know you played a great game but like I said to Ami, I can vote either personally or based on the game. Also was this part of your strategy too ?? images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/27/488c540a0693445e6813c9afca095be0.jpg I actually did want to work with you prob to the end since I found you hilarious and my other relationships were lacking. I don't hold it against you tho if you preferred others since I was lazy with signing on at times but you didn't have to make that move at the time sis. Also for fun; how many Viagra would you have to take for each jury member, if you were to spend a night with them? Anyway good luck finalists!!
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Post by rudy on Nov 17, 2015 15:07:44 GMT
Next is Rudolph
I was happy to see you make it to the end and to see my fellow Akha (was that even my original tribe?? idkidkidk) tribemates come into the jury one by one. It was booty(ful). I think you played great and srsly lold when I woke up and found myself voted out of the game. I wrote a confessional right before I went to bed about flipping next round with you. I did find our convo strange so I was weary and I said "I hope Rudy wasn't testing me though bc he is a snitch lol He always telling everyone what so and so said. I guess we will find out if the vote changed to me but that would be a waste." So why should I vote for you though when you were the reason I was ousted? Like I said, I know you played a great game but like I said to Ami, I can vote either personally or based on the game. Also was this part of your strategy too ?? images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/27/488c540a0693445e6813c9afca095be0.jpg I actually did want to work with you prob to the end since I found you hilarious and my other relationships were lacking. I don't hold it against you tho if you preferred others since I was lazy with signing on at times but you didn't have to make that move at the time sis.
Also for fun; how many Viagra would you have to take for each jury member, if you were to spend a night with them?
Anyway good luck finalists!!
Hey Ash, I'm actually going to address the screenshot first because there is a FUNNY story behind that. There was a running joke in the alliance chat, and for the hosts and PWs that Rudy does not remember who is in what tribe chat, due to his old age. And it actually happened first with Ami, this one was a legit mistake: I don't think Ami ever caught it LOL, but the hosts and PWs loved it and it was sort of my "Mole 2.0" task for no reward to find a way to make a another huge WTF post in the tribechat. The "I'm voting Ash, I hate the bitch" in the SAME chat that you were in was actually to amuse the hosts. I didn't actually mean it and I hope you don't take it personally lol. Now the second part of your question, why should you vote for me when I was the one responsible for you going? That's kind of the stance juries would take that leads to less deserving winners, "who least screwed me over, I'll vote for that person", like Amber and Natalie White. My opinion which many avid survivor fans share is that the jury should vote on gameplay, and not personal bias toward the finalist. yes I did screw you over, but I had a game reason for doing so. It's possible I could have gone with you all the way, but I felt more confident moving forward in the game with one less Akha member, opening up the possibility of a Hmong majority later. I hope you will recognize it was a game move and nothing personal against you girl, and good luck with your decision either way! Here's my confessional for that particular round: Final 10
You know this game never seems to be boring despite how obvious the outcomes seem to be. Nate should be going home tonight, but someone is acting as a barricade to my vengenge (episode title motherfuckers). So for starters, The majority rules named me as the most likely to win, and the villain, while also being the Most in control....AND MISTAKENLY in control. I love it when that happens.
Idol paranoia is beginning to run rampant, and I decided to "admit" to Caleb that I was the mole, and I have that idol. I thought a lot about this, and decided to do it for a few reasons:
1. Joaquin and Tyson already know, and Caleb is particularly close to Joaquin anyway. I have a suspicion he ALREADY knew about it anyway, but if he didn't, he was gonna find out pretty soon, so it's better I just come clean with it and show him I trust him.
2. I used it as a bonding tool, I told Caleb I'd be willing to share the idol with him at F5 to ensure we both make it to the F4, and I absolutely would consider doing that.
So that was the start of the night, along with us gloating about how we got the better of Nick. And lo and behold tonight, Ashley comes online and delivers me this little Gem: This puts me into a rather interesting position, not only for this round, but for the remainder of the game. I really have 3 options going forward: 1. I can team up with Ashley, we vote Nick off this round and I go with her idea to blindside Caleb Joaquin or Monica at the F9. This overall isn't a good option for me, for several reasons. For starters, I already am gonna have jury issues assuming I make it to the end this route, this will basically compound them to the point of me being in a total "goat" status. Second, Ashley wants to make big moves and eliminate threats now. It isn't gonna be too long until she sees me as of one of those people and gets me out, or she ends up being the one calling the shots dragging me to the end as her goat.
2. My second option is to get Nick out this time and form a group with Margaret, Caleb, Tyler and Joseph as I already considered, and at the Final 9 we stick together and probably beat Annette here at her own game. There are a lot of Pros to this move, it's safe for this round, I finally get Nate out which I had been trying to do since the Colleen vote, it removes someone I don't/can't trust first and leaves Ashley in the game, which actually gives me options, since she isn't after me right now. Maybe I could change my mind and go with her plan next time.
3. And behind door number 3 is the most interesting option. I form the 5 person alliance mentioned above, us united by the scheming nature of Annette, the 5 of us blindside her. Ami and Annette vote for Nate, Nate Jeremiah and Aras vote for Me or Tyson, and Annette goes home in 5-3-2 blindside fashion. There are also a lot of Pros to this move, my biggest barricade entering the merge when I made my decision to flip to Akha was whether or not I could find a crack and infiltrate their group. Kaitlyn and Annette going home 11th and 10th helps me to weaken Akha's numbers, and Ashley has the potential to corrupt Caleb/Margaret/Joseph and Ami and she's a schemer. She talks a lot to Jerome she admits, and she's been more actively scheming than even Nate/Jerome, who have been on the bottom this game. If she goes home this round, that leaves Nate-Aaron and Jerome as a threesome going into the Final 9, which paints a huge target on them that no one will want to deal with, and it brings deeper into the core of Akha.
So far, I like option number 3 the best. If Annette leaves now, all the trouble makers within Akha are gone, and Ami is basically going to be left dazed and confused. We can basically just pick off the Ex-Hmong at F9,8 and 7 (though, the game has never gone that smoothly at all this merge..I'm sure at minimum Nate will be gone at least next time.....).
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Post by ashley on Nov 17, 2015 15:31:06 GMT
Thank you Rudolph! That was an interesting read.
One thing I'll say is... while survivor fans share that opinion (juries should vote based on gameplay), I'm not a fan of survivor despite playing a survivor org lol so unfortunately I don't share that opinion :/
I'll see how I feel when I wake up (or maybe Ami will persuade me) Good luck!
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Post by rudy on Nov 17, 2015 15:34:05 GMT
Thank you Rudolph! That was an interesting read. One thing I'll say is... while survivor fans share that opinion (juries should vote based on gameplay), I'm not a fan of survivor despite playing a survivor org lol so unfortunately I don't share that opinion :/ I'll see how I feel when I wake up (or maybe Ami will persuade me) Good luck! Allright! There isn't much I can really do to change your opinion if that's how you feel. Good luck with your decision
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Post by Ami on Nov 18, 2015 0:04:24 GMT
Hey Ash. Thanks for the compliments <3
Tell me why I should vote for you based on game?
I've spoken a little about this in some other answers and through my Opening Statement, but I really think that I worked to set myself up for success in this game. I think there's a stigma in Survivor that you have to make big, flashy moves to have played a "good game" and I don't necessarily think that that is the case. I think a good game can be executed in many different ways, and I think I executed a pretty good under the radar game. I was never a target, I worked my ass off in challenges, I made sure that I had people in front of me who were targeted before me, and I feel like I was pretty sleuthy. I was being fed a lot of information that I didn't share with many others and kept to myself to benefit my own game. I think that my jury management was superior to Rudy's, and I feel that I put more effort into parts of the game than Rudy did, which all tie into playing a good game. While a UTR game doesn't always earn much respect, I think I executed a sleuthy, UTR, and successful game that managed to get me to the end.
Also what does if you seek ami mean?
Well, Ashley, to put it simply:
Love me, hate me, say what you want about me, but all of the boys and all of the girls are begging to VOTE AMI TO WIN RUSTIC SURVIVOR: PHUKET
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Post by rudy on Nov 18, 2015 0:15:42 GMT
Hey Ash. Thanks for the compliments <3 Tell me why I should vote for you based on game? I've spoken a little about this in some other answers and through my Opening Statement, but I really think that I worked to set myself up for success in this game. I think there's a stigma in Survivor that you have to make big, flashy moves to have played a "good game" and I don't necessarily think that that is the case. I think a good game can be executed in many different ways, and I think I executed a pretty good under the radar game. I was never a target, I worked my ass off in challenges, I made sure that I had people in front of me who were targeted before me, and I feel like I was pretty sleuthy. I was being fed a lot of information that I didn't share with many others and kept to myself to benefit my own game. I think that my jury management was superior to Rudy's, and I feel that I put more effort into parts of the game than Rudy did, which all tie into playing a good game. While a UTR game doesn't always earn much respect, I think I executed a sleuthy, UTR, and successful game that managed to get me to the end. Also what does if you seek ami mean? Well, Ashley, to put it simply: Love me, hate me, say what you want about me, but all of the boys and all of the girls are begging to VOTE AMI TO WIN RUSTIC SURVIVOR: PHUKET Not to burst your bubble too much, but a major reason why you were not targeted was because yea, you weren't as much of a threat as Joaquin or Monica, but from Final 7 onward monica was always threatening to save you with the idol, which made it difficult to get Aras/Jeremiah to commit to voting you. The discussion of voting you off was discussed a lot, particularly when Caleb, tyson caleb and I were talking about switching to you at Final 7 but tyson wasn't online in time. You weren't avoided as a target so much for playing a brilliant under the radar game, but cause monica always had your ass covered. I didn't have to depend on one single other person to get to this point. Even after Caleb and Tyson left, I made it by on my own merit. A mole idol that took a ton of effort to earn, convincing you and Monica to vote Aras off at 4, and 8 hours of endurance. You slid by cause when Final 5 came around, you were the easiest to beat. You didn't have to FIGHT to make it here, I had to. Monica did the fighting for you.
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Post by Ami on Nov 18, 2015 0:22:01 GMT
Hey Ash. Thanks for the compliments <3 Tell me why I should vote for you based on game? I've spoken a little about this in some other answers and through my Opening Statement, but I really think that I worked to set myself up for success in this game. I think there's a stigma in Survivor that you have to make big, flashy moves to have played a "good game" and I don't necessarily think that that is the case. I think a good game can be executed in many different ways, and I think I executed a pretty good under the radar game. I was never a target, I worked my ass off in challenges, I made sure that I had people in front of me who were targeted before me, and I feel like I was pretty sleuthy. I was being fed a lot of information that I didn't share with many others and kept to myself to benefit my own game. I think that my jury management was superior to Rudy's, and I feel that I put more effort into parts of the game than Rudy did, which all tie into playing a good game. While a UTR game doesn't always earn much respect, I think I executed a sleuthy, UTR, and successful game that managed to get me to the end. Also what does if you seek ami mean? Well, Ashley, to put it simply: Love me, hate me, say what you want about me, but all of the boys and all of the girls are begging to VOTE AMI TO WIN RUSTIC SURVIVOR: PHUKET Not to burst your bubble too much, but a major reason why you were not targeted was because yea, you weren't as much of a threat as Joaquin or Monica, but from Final 7 onward monica was always threatening to save you with the idol, which made it difficult to get Aras/Jeremiah to commit to voting you. The discussion of voting you off was discussed a lot, particularly when Caleb, tyson caleb and I were talking about switching to you at Final 7 but tyson wasn't online in time. You weren't avoided as a target so much for playing a brilliant under the radar game, but cause monica always had your ass covered. I didn't have to depend on one single other person to get to this point. Even after Caleb and Tyson left, I made it by on my own merit. A mole idol that took a ton of effort to earn, convincing you and Monica to vote Aras off at 4, and 8 hours of endurance. You slid by cause when Final 5 came around, you were the easiest to beat. You didn't have to FIGHT to make it here, I had to. Monica did the fighting for you. Not sure where attacking my game is coming from, honestly. You're certainly entitled to your opinion on how I played the game. I definitely fought to make it here, and I don't think it's fair for you to say I didn't as you weren't in my shoes. I do want to point out one thing you said, though. You claim that you didn't have to depend on one single other person to get to this point. However, is Survivor not a massive social experiment, in its most basic sense? You HAVE to rely on others to get to the end. You don't make it to the end by flying solo. Caleb, Tyson, Jeremiah, Aras, etc. all helped you get to this point and I don't think it's fair for you to deny that. Anyways, I would like to keep this to respectfully answering the juror's questions. I don't want it to become a back and forth between you and I attacking the other's game. I think both of our games have merit in being here, otherwise we'd be sitting on the jury.
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Post by rudy on Nov 18, 2015 1:19:17 GMT
Not to burst your bubble too much, but a major reason why you were not targeted was because yea, you weren't as much of a threat as Joaquin or Monica, but from Final 7 onward monica was always threatening to save you with the idol, which made it difficult to get Aras/Jeremiah to commit to voting you. The discussion of voting you off was discussed a lot, particularly when Caleb, tyson caleb and I were talking about switching to you at Final 7 but tyson wasn't online in time. You weren't avoided as a target so much for playing a brilliant under the radar game, but cause monica always had your ass covered. I didn't have to depend on one single other person to get to this point. Even after Caleb and Tyson left, I made it by on my own merit. A mole idol that took a ton of effort to earn, convincing you and Monica to vote Aras off at 4, and 8 hours of endurance. You slid by cause when Final 5 came around, you were the easiest to beat. You didn't have to FIGHT to make it here, I had to. Monica did the fighting for you. Not sure where attacking my game is coming from, honestly. You're certainly entitled to your opinion on how I played the game. I definitely fought to make it here, and I don't think it's fair for you to say I didn't as you weren't in my shoes. I do want to point out one thing you said, though. You claim that you didn't have to depend on one single other person to get to this point. However, is Survivor not a massive social experiment, in its most basic sense? You HAVE to rely on others to get to the end. You don't make it to the end by flying solo. Caleb, Tyson, Jeremiah, Aras, etc. all helped you get to this point and I don't think it's fair for you to deny that. Anyways, I would like to keep this to respectfully answering the juror's questions. I don't want it to become a back and forth between you and I attacking the other's game. I think both of our games have merit in being here, otherwise we'd be sitting on the jury. It's the final tribal we can interject each other points made in an answer. You misunderstood what I meant by a "single person". I don't mean I didn't need anyone to make it to the end, I meant I didn't RELY SOLELY on a SINGLE person, like how you relied so heavily on monica to make it here. I relied on Caleb and Tyson a lot and when they were eliminated I had to fight a lot harder to get to this point.
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Post by Ami on Nov 18, 2015 1:25:34 GMT
Not sure where attacking my game is coming from, honestly. You're certainly entitled to your opinion on how I played the game. I definitely fought to make it here, and I don't think it's fair for you to say I didn't as you weren't in my shoes. I do want to point out one thing you said, though. You claim that you didn't have to depend on one single other person to get to this point. However, is Survivor not a massive social experiment, in its most basic sense? You HAVE to rely on others to get to the end. You don't make it to the end by flying solo. Caleb, Tyson, Jeremiah, Aras, etc. all helped you get to this point and I don't think it's fair for you to deny that. Anyways, I would like to keep this to respectfully answering the juror's questions. I don't want it to become a back and forth between you and I attacking the other's game. I think both of our games have merit in being here, otherwise we'd be sitting on the jury. It's the final tribal we can interject each other points made in an answer. You misunderstood what I meant by a "single person". I don't mean I didn't need anyone to make it to the end, I meant I didn't RELY SOLELY on a SINGLE person, like how you relied so heavily on monica to make it here. I relied on Caleb and Tyson a lot and when they were eliminated I had to fight a lot harder to get to this point. I think there's a difference between interjecting and just stepping in to slander your opponent's game with no real reasoning. But maybe that's just me. I think you're putting too much emphasis on my reliance on Monica. Yes, I certainly owe her a lot for getting me to this point. I'm thankful that I had her there to protect me with her idol, but I also wasn't solely reliant on her getting me here. I had other connections besides Monica that helped me get to this point. As I mentioned in Tyson's questions, we had even played around with the idea of getting Monica out early in the merge. Now why would I want to out someone that I'm so heavily reliant on to get to the end? Your perspective is what it is, Rudy, but I still don't think you can fairly say that I didn't fight to get here. I clearly did something that earned me a spot in the Final 2, and 16 other people can't say the same thing.
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Post by rudy on Nov 18, 2015 1:37:49 GMT
Talking about Voting off monica and actually doing it are 2 different things. You tried to get Caleb out at 9 and 8, couldn't do it, and Monica stepped in to make it happen with Aras. You claim to have played a excellent UTR game, but it seems like there are really few Actual moves that you can own. Saying you deserve to win because you made the finals by being protected by a superior player and not being enough of a threat to merit voting you off isn't a strong argument for impressive gameplay.
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Post by Ami on Nov 18, 2015 1:54:02 GMT
Talking about Voting off monica and actually doing it are 2 different things. You tried to get Caleb out at 9 and 8, couldn't do it, and Monica stepped in to make it happen with Aras. You claim to have played a excellent UTR game, but it seems like there are really few Actual moves that you can own. Saying you deserve to win because you made the finals by being protected by a superior player and not being enough of a threat to merit voting you off isn't a strong argument for impressive gameplay. Again, Rudy, you are entitled to your own opinion. I figured you'd stop being a crotchety old man once FTC started but I still see you're up to your rude antics. You've been able to express your thoughts on my game in your answers, there's no need to slander it throughout this thread. I'm still happy with the game I played, so leave it be.
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Post by rudy on Nov 18, 2015 2:04:43 GMT
Talking about Voting off monica and actually doing it are 2 different things. You tried to get Caleb out at 9 and 8, couldn't do it, and Monica stepped in to make it happen with Aras. You claim to have played a excellent UTR game, but it seems like there are really few Actual moves that you can own. Saying you deserve to win because you made the finals by being protected by a superior player and not being enough of a threat to merit voting you off isn't a strong argument for impressive gameplay. Again, Rudy, you are entitled to your own opinion. I figured you'd stop being a crotchety old man once FTC started but I still see you're up to your rude antics. You've been able to express your thoughts on my game in your answers, there's no need to slander it throughout this thread. I'm still happy with the game I played, so leave it be. That's fine, don't suggest though I'm an ass for challenging your responses. It is the FTC, I am allowed to challenge you as you are me (nothing in the rules against it)
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Post by ashley on Nov 18, 2015 15:03:41 GMT
Thank you Ami for your answers as well!
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